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Martin Fidos Notizen
« am: 02.10.2011 10:59 Uhr »
Bei jtrforums.com hat Martin Fido seine Originalnotizen eingestellt, die er erstellt hatte als er weiland auf der Suche nach "Kosminski" durch die Asylum Records ging.

Siehe hier: http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=12948

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Re: Martin Fidos Notizen
« Antwort #1 am: 02.10.2011 11:03 Uhr »
Ich habe mir den Spaß erlaubt mit einer Transkription der Notizen zu beginnen, konnte aber auch nicht alles entziffern.
Es folgen also die Notizen in getippter Form, wäre schon, wenn Ihr Euch beteiligen könntet:
  • Wo habe ich etwas falsch verstanden, gelesen, interpretiert?
  • Was heißen die Stellen, die ich nicht entziffern konnte? (Mit [?] gekennzeichnet)

Ich finde diese Notizen jedenfalls hochinteressant, weil es uns die Möglichkeit gibt, quasi "live" bei einer echten Recherche dabei zu sein.

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Re: Martin Fidos Notizen
« Antwort #2 am: 02.10.2011 11:04 Uhr »
NO Kaminsky OR
      WEISSMAN in
Whitechapel parish electors,
               1923.


Poplar Lunatics -
   Lewis G. Isaacs born 1874
of 8 Addington Rd, Bow, (9 months
residence)   Admitted Colney Hatch
   13.2.92   Transferred to
Leavesden   31.5.92
   Father - Samuel Isaac of above
address
-------------------------------------------
Mile End Old Town Infirmary -
   Creeds Register 1887-92
No Kaminsky or Golinsky

Whitechapel Infirmary -
   Admission + Discharge, 1889-90
Asylum discharges and
Hebrew admissions during March 1889:
   Simon Gripsbeam   act 19, Single
Slipper-maker   1 Heneage St. The itch(?)
1 week settlement.    Adm Mar 5th    disch 18th

   Gabriel Rosenberg, of 1 Heneage St,
act 25, married, tailor, skin eruption
9 weeks settlement.   adm 7th      disch 13th

   Barnett Levy,   act 84,   hawker of 2
Thrawl Street, widower, [?], [?]
2 month settlement   adm 7th      disch 18th
[?] again with hernia, 19th-25th + again 31st
----------------------------------------------
      1889-92.)

Edward [?], act 39, single, carman
of 12 Prince's St.   Cof E.   adm
7th March with [?]   Disch to
Banstead 15th

Martin[?] Jennings, act 48, [line crossed out]
labourer of [line crossed out]
William Christy [?], 52,
Cab Proprietor(?) of 97 Backchurch
Lane, admitted insane 7th March,
disch to Banstead 15th
Abrahem Woodwide, act 57,
widower shoemoaker of 16 [?] Garden St.
adm 12 Mch with sprained ankle:
disch 8th April

John Thomas Milnes, 46 yr old basket case maker
of 10 Artillery(?) St, insane - adm 20th
March : disch to Banstead 3 March 1890
---------------------------------------------
Lewis Kahn, 37 yr old RC
   Cabinet maker   married of 10
   Cotton St   adm. Insane 20th March
   discharged 18th April

Louis Young, 31 yr old   single
   [?] of 1 Heneage St,
single, adm with bronchitis 22nd:
disch 13th April (V [?]
address - at least 3 Gentiles from
there in, too!)

Solomon Goldstein, 32 yr old
married hawker(?) of 17 Gun St.
adm with p[h]thisis, 26 March,
disch 13th April

Isaiah Doitsch, 30 yr old
* Single clerk of 99 Brunswick Bdgs
admitted insane 7.30 pm,
37th March. Died 27th april
-----------------------------------------
* [?] of [?] Plough st,
admitted insane 5.25 pm,
March 28th. Disch to
Colney Hatch, 6th April

END OF MARCH
   SPECIALS


Michael Kidney -
   36.   From workhouse
with syphilis. 11th June - 24th
   40    From 12 Thrawl St
   with lumbago, 17th Aug 30th Sept
   40   Oct 11th from 12 Thrawl
   St with dyspepsia. Dischgd 15th

   END OF
WHITECHAPEL INF,
      1889-90
----------------------------------------------
NO Grolinsky in
   Whitechapel Infirmary

Admission + Discharge
   book, 1897-98

      But, in that book,
Rebecca Kaminsky, act 58,
   wife of Jacob Kaminsky (tailor)
of 1a Upper Chapman St,
admitted with hemiplegia.
   Daughter Dinah said  t be the
   sane

Solomon Goblinski - certified
      permanently for Leavesden,
   March 13, 1899
Data in Whitechapel Register of lunatics
   in workhouse, 1888-9 (was there
   3 days before certification.)
-------------------------------------------
Sept 24th 1895 - Claybury Asylum
   received(?) "Jim The Polisher"
      (Bethnal Green book)
Seen - City of London
      Bethnal Green, -1888-95
Poplar Shoreditch
Nathan Karnsky.
   Born 1872. Admitted Colney Hatch
21 Dec 1899. Died there 9 July 1908
(in Bethnal Green book)

Edio(?) Karminskio(?) - apparently b. c. 1812 Admitted
   Claybury (for Hackney) 28.9.93   N-o-[?] unknown
Name given
as KARONSKY in      X20-13
workhouse         X20/12
records
N Karnsky,      to Workhouse, May 8th
13.6.99         To Bethnal House Asylum
May 13th      Tranferred to London County
(=Heath Asylum) Asylum, Besley      Dec. 21st
Date of birth now given as 1868
               29 in 1902, 30 1903
-----------------------------------------
Whitechapel Infirmary

Moses Kosseman - discharged 11.3.89
               folio 360


Herman Kremp - discharged 9.3.89
      Died of bronchitis   folio 4 3 00 X 712.

Samuel Kline - disch. 17.5.89
               folio 713

Sigfried Karpelles - disch 8.6.89
               folio 743

Freden de Kijop (?)      disch 1.3.90
                  folio 4600
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Folio - w. 436
Andrew Anderson - Age 25. From Sailor's Home
   Single. Seaman.    Mani[crossed out]   Adm for
   mania.      2 yrs settlement   Hebrew
   Disch 12.6.89 to Leavesden Asylum


F. 521   Hyam Hyams.      Age 34
   adm from 4 Bell Court. General [?]
   married.   Weak mind.   Hebrew
   Disch 14.4.89 to Colney Hatch

f. 743   Sigfried Karpelles - Age 20, Adm
   from 12 Thrawl St.   Single, Salesman.
   [?].      Hebrew.      3 weeks
         disch. 8.3.89

f. 939   Charles Simmonds,   Age 65   Of 26
   Newnham St      Widower      Butcher
Mental aberration.   3 months.   To
   Colney Hatch   18.6.89
-----------------------------------------
F. 2082.   Morris Levin.   Age 33.
   101 Turner St.   Tailor
   Insanity.   Hebrew.   To Banstead Asylum

F 2316      Isaac De Fries.   Age 22.
   318 Mile End Rd, London Hospital
   Fish Porter. Insane. Hebrew 21.9.89
      to Colney Hatch


F 2434.
   Israel Schatzki      Age 33      P.C. H303
found in Tewson's Court. Married.
   Furrier(?).   Insane.      Hebrew   Disch.
      22.11.89
--------------------------------------------
No 18         1888
              23
          b.   1865

FF 1168. Nathan Kaminsky   Age 23.
   15 Black Lion Yard, [?]
   Bootmaker. Adm for syphilis
[?] March 24th 1888  5.30 pm.
Hebrew.   12 months settlement.   Disch
12.5.88

35
+23
58
[?] Rd [?] Library            1923
981-6630                    61
Other Kaminsky 16            1862
61 in 19
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St Marylebone Register of Lunatics
                     NO

Shoreditch Register of [?]


Poplar   1889-97      NO
      1877-88      NO

City of London

   Frederick Krettch(?), b 1844, no known
address      dangerous to others   incarcerated
Stone 3 Jan 88, disch 12 June 88

   Nathan Leonard Koetosk, age 48,
admitted from City Infirmary to Stone 25 Feb 1896
Discharged to   "     "     from Stone 29 Dec 1897
Nathan Leonard Koetosk back in
Stone from Infirmary 11 June 1898
* adjudic(?) to Willesden, June 1899
----------------------------------------------

Bermondsey    1867-92
            NO


Hackney      1887-1901
            NO

St Pancras   NO

Holborn      NO





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STEPNEY LUNATICS
   Stepney M.E.O.T. Lunatics Register Sep. 1892-97
Aaron Sanders   d. Colney Hatch, 10 Oct 1902
   Admitted 27 Oct 1892.   Supposed 9 days
   insane. Father Moses Sanders, 92 Mile End Rd

Lewis Benjamin, alias Abraham Jacobs
   (brother Joseph Benjamin, 10 Fieldgate
   SN, Whitechapel) Adjudicateted to
   Stepney from Cardiff Union, when in
   Glamorgan County Asylum, 4.1.92
   Previously Winson Green Asylum, B'ham
   from 1.12.91   Escaped 8.10.92   Discharged
   22.10.92      D.o.b. unknown       *to see below

Morris Schafkin,    b. 1871.   No relations
   known.   Colney Hatch 1.12.93

Abraham Hochmanovich or Mouchmonour,
   b. 1867,   Father, Noah Mouchmonour
88 Chambers St, Leman St   Transferred
from Leavesden to Colney Hatch 1.2.94
D. 19.4.07
-------------------------------------------------
Isaac Abrahams, b. 1847.  Wife
   Rachel A. of 11 Calverly St, Mile E
Adm. Colney Hatch 4.9.85, D. 14.2

Louis Rozinski   b. 1865, wife Annie R
   16 Baker St, Commercial Rd.  Adm
   Colney Hatch  22.11.95  Disch
   14.5.97

Edward Cohen, b 1855, wife Leah C. of
   114 Wentworth St. Cornwell St E,
Adm. Colney Hatch 23.6.97   Adjnd to
   Whitechapel Bd 18.3.98

      Whitechapel - 1897
Nacher Marks(?) sent to Colney Hatch July 27

Isaac Schmidoski, refined by police
   30.7.97: Adm Colney Hatch 7.8.97

---------------------------------------------
Lewis Benjamin - Police brought -
   Oct 19, 1898.   Doctors said sane
   Wynne Baxter (now JP) sent him
   to General Ward

Jacob Weinberg - To Colney Hatch
      Nov 3rd 1898

Solomon Golinski - certified for
   permanent detention, Leavesden
   13.3.89

CHARLES GEORGE LUDWIG - brought -
   to Whitechapal by Police as lunatic
   11th March, 1897   Discharged is
   fir, 27th Mrach [Register of Lunatics
   in Whitechapel Workhouse]

Hyman Brodski to Colney Hatch
   14 4 97
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      MOST IMPORTANT
STEPNEY - LIST
   Register of Whitechapel Lunatics in
Asylums, 1879-1899

David Cohen, act 23, from 86
   Leman Street   Relatives unknown,
Adm. Dec. 21 88      sent to Colney Hatch
Died Oct 20 89

Isaac Cohen, act 31, Adm from
   30 Dorset St   12.12.90
   Relatives unknown

George Cordell, age 25   adm from
      104 Lohesworth Bdgs.   Father, Geor. C
   of same address      Discharge on Dec 11
      1891 struck out (?)
(admitted Banstead, 12.11.88)

Thomas Debney, 35 of 30 Flowery Dean
adm Colney Hatch   17.10.89 Trans to
Leavesden.   19.10.96
----------------------------------------------------
Thomas Donoghue, age 38, of 90 Old
   Montague St (wife Sarah)[crossed out] Elizabeth)
Admitted Banstead, Nov 16, 1888
   d. Feb 1891

Hyam Hyams, age 34, adm Colney Hatch
   from 4 Bell Court, adm. 1889
      Disch   August 1889

William Christian [?], age 52 of
   97 Back Church Lane, to
Banstead, March 1889

Morris Jacobs   Age 30, Address + relatives
   unknown, Admitted Colney Hatch
10 Aug. 92   Transferred Leavesden.
May 94

Charles Jenkins, Age 42   of 15 Dorset St
   No friends   Adm Cane Hill, June 92
-----------------------------------------------------
Mades Karinski, Age 22, Address + relatives
   unknown, to Colney Hatch,
   May 1899

Emmanuel Koch, Age 48 of 41
   Commercial Rd, no friends,
adm. Cane Hill, May 92, transferred
Gloucester County Asylum, Nov 94,
   d. March 96

   NO KOSMINSKI (or
similar) from Whitechapel
throughout


Isaac Nathan, of 25 Sandy Row (father
   same name + address) Age 24 in
   1885, in Colney Hatch Dec 85 - Nov 86
   When discharged
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Israel Pearl, Age 16 of 14 Plough St (father
   Simon) adm. Colney Hatch   Apr. 6, 89
   Disch. Aug. 30th 89

John Francis Shackleton   of 55 Flowery Dean
   (father Edw. of 25 Risinghill St, Pentonville Rd)
   age 32, adm Banstead 28.12.88, died
   1.9.89

Geo. Smith, age 21, Criminal lunatic, refused
   to give next of kin      admitted Banstead
   25 11 92   d   10.4.94

Unknown Male from 12 Princelet St adm
   Colney Hatch, 10.12.95      died 14.1.96
Age c.23

Solomon White - no details - Adm City
   Asylum Stone, Feb 23, 1889:
   transferred Banstead Sep. 89

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Re: Martin Fidos Notizen
« Antwort #3 am: 02.10.2011 20:00 Uhr »
Vielen, vielen Dank Shadow! So bald als möglich, beteilige ich mich. Super Idee. Ich bitte jedoch um etwas Geduld.
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Re: Martin Fidos Notizen
« Antwort #4 am: 02.10.2011 22:47 Uhr »
Herzlichen Dank Shadow. Ich guck mal unter dem Link nach, ob ich eventuell noch was entziffern kann, wobei ich das nicht wirklich glaube, ich habe einfach kein Auge für so etwas.  :biggrin:

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Re: Martin Fidos Notizen
« Antwort #5 am: 03.10.2011 23:07 Uhr »
Der Typ hat eine absolute Sauklaue... ich hab´s versucht.  :biggrin:

Edit: Zum Chief Inspector befördert, wie schön.  :yahoo:

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Re: Martin Fidos Notizen
« Antwort #6 am: 03.10.2011 23:47 Uhr »
Glückwunsch!

Kompliment an Shadow, gute Arbeit. Wußte nicht, dass du Hieroglyphen-Übersetzer bist.

Ich kann nur meine Asso zu Weissman und Golinski nicht nachvollziehen. Weitere Namen sind mir auch noch bekannt.
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