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Männer, ähnlich Aaron Kosminski!
« am: 05.01.2012 11:58 Uhr »
In diesem Faden möchte ich euch aus Rob House´Buch, "JACK THE RIPPER AND THE CASE FOR SCOTLAND YARD´S PRIME SUSPECT", Männer vorstellen, die man gerne im Vergleich mit Aaron Kosminski sehen kann oder könnte.

Ich werde hier lediglich zitieren und alles in englischer Sprache belassen. So nach und nach werden einige Postings erscheinen.

Ich hoffe, es geht so klar.

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Re: Männer, ähnlich Aaron Kosminski!
« Antwort #1 am: 05.01.2012 14:22 Uhr »
Andrew Goldstein

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There are several well-known examples of people who claimed that they were ordered to kill by command –type auditory hallucinations. One such case was the widely reported murder of Kendra Webdale in 1999 by a schizophrenic man named Andrew Goldstein of Queens, New York. In the decade following his first psychotic episode at age eighteen, Goldstein received various diagnosis from psychiatrists, including paranoid schizophrenia and schizoaffective disorder. Goldstein checked himself into numerous hospitals and desperatly wanted help, but despite the fact that doctors considered him dangerous both to himself and to others, he was always released. Goldstein told doctors that he was controlled by someone called Larry, and that he was “concerned about his impuls to hurt women.“  Goldstein acted on these impulses numerous times, and in one two-year period, he attacked thirteen people (mostly woman) in various places-several were hospital nurses, but others were simply strangers in a bookstore or a fast- food restaurant. “Someone is inhabiting me and making me do things,“ Goldstein said. “You feel like something´s entering you, like you´re being inhabited. I don´t know. And then, I feel like it´s not there, that sensation. Now I´m sane again. Then I´m normal. And then, it´s there again and then, it´s not“.
During Goldstein´s final hospital admission in December 1998, it was reported that he was “disorganized, thought disordered, and delusional,“ and that he was unwashed and smelled bad (December 9); on December 10, the records showed that he “remains psychotic“; on December 11, he “remains paranoid.“ Doctors attempted to have Goldstein admitted to a long- term care facility, but finding no vacancy, they instead released him a few days later.
On Sunday, January3, 1999, Goldstein spent much of the day listening to Madonna and claimed that he “drew pictures in his mind of a blimp on a green lawn in Germany during the 1930s.“ In the afternoon he went out to record store, and at 5 p.m., he descended into the subway station at Broadway and 23rd Street. According to witnesses, in the subway station Goldstein was mumbling to himself, alternately standing on his tiptoes and pacing back and forth. He approached a young blond woman named Dawn Lorenzio and tried to talk to her, but Lorenzino turned around and said, “What are you lookimng at?“ Goldstein then approached a second woman, Kendra Webdale, and asked her the time. After Webdale answered, Goldstein walked away and stood near the wall behind her.
As the train began to enter the station, according to Goldstein, “He felt a sensation, like a ghost or a spirit entering him and he got the urge to push, kick or punch the woman with blonde hair (that is, Lorenzino).“ Then, inexplicably, he rushed forward and instead shoved Webdale so hard that she flew in front of the train “like a skydiver.“ When police arrived at the scene, Goldstein was sitting calmly on the floor, surrounded by a crowd of people. “I don´t know the woman,“ he said “I just pushed her.“
In a taped interview that was shown during the trial, Goldstein was asked why he did it.“Oh, I don´t know,,“ he responded. “I feel like people talk, uh, talk through me, you know.“
„Who talks through you?“ the interviewer asked.
„People. Like they say things, you know, like a plot or something.“
“What´s a plot?“
“Against, against, against me.“
Goldstein´s case is interesting because he apparently had psychopathic characteristics in addition to hearing command- type hallucinations. At his trial, the prosecution argued that he had a relatively mild disorder “in the schizophrenic spectrum,“ but that he “had `anti- social` features that were more relevant to his act than his schizophrenia.“ Although the statement that Goldstein´s mental disorder was “mild“ is almost certainly inaccurate, given the overwhelming evidence of his psychosis, it is quite possible that a psychopathic antisocial tendency was an even greater factor in his numerous attacks on woman. The prosecution, for example, presented evidence that Goldstein had a great anger due to rejection by woman, and that a former roommate´s stripper girlfriend had teased him. Goldstein´s landlady testified that when maid went downstairs to clean teh appartment, she found Goldstein “lying on his bed exposed and he didn´t cover himself.“ According to the prosecution, this was evidence that Goldstein “had been sexually inappropriate with woman.“ Yet at the same time, Goldstein´s roommate testified that he “was never disrespectful and never violent and very calm.“ This presents a complex picture, but in many respects, Goldstein may have been similar to Kozminski. Like Goldstein, Kozminski claimed to be controlled by an “instinct“,“ was unwashed, and clearly

Ich bin sehr froh, dass House uns diesen Mann präsentieren konnte. Goldstein entspricht meiner Vorstellung des Rippers (sogar äußerlich aber dazu gleich).

Interessant finde ich besonders "standing on his tiptoes and pacing back and forth" im Vergleich zu Schwartz seinem "The half-tipsy man halted and spoke to her". Bei Goldstein passierte es ja, als "etwas von ihm Besitz ergriff".

Vergleichen wir alles was wir über Aaron Kosminski wissen, was wir von den Polizeibeamten über "Kozminski" wissen und wo wir vermuten, dass es mit "Kozminski" zu tun hat, mit Andrew Goldstein, dann wird vieles schon aufschlußreicher.

Goldstein "sprach" in einem kurzen Intervall, mehr wie eine Frau an, dass gleiche dürfen wir von Jack the Ripper erwarten. In gewisser Art und Weise, wandte Goldstein sich erst von seinem Opfer ab um dann "wiederzukehren". Das gleiche oder ähnliches könnte in der Berner Street passiert sein. Eine plötzliche und auch tötliche Attacke
bei Webdale und Stride.

Israel Schwartz könnte, auch wenn ich jetzt vom Thema kurz abschweife, tatsächlich Jack the Ripper (Kozminski, Aaron Kosminski) gesehen haben, aber "Pipeman" diesen Mann wirklich gut und vorallem dichter an der entgültigen Tat.

Schwartz´ "broad shouldered man" und Cox sein Statement:

"The man we suspected was about five feet six inches in height, with short, black, curly hair,..."

bringen etwas Ironie in den Fall von Andrew Goldstein, weil er auf folgenden Link auf dem Bild den beiden Äußerungen irgendwie nahekommt.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/make_kendra_law_permanent_avLb6Ptjbh5QLNoBFwyQwL

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Re: Männer, ähnlich Aaron Kosminski!
« Antwort #2 am: 05.01.2012 16:49 Uhr »
Goldstein war übrigens zur Tatzeit 30 Jahre alt.
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Re: Männer, ähnlich Aaron Kosminski!
« Antwort #3 am: 05.01.2012 22:16 Uhr »
Warren

Rob House:

An interesting example from the FBI´s Behavioral Sciences Unit study was a man referred to only as Warren. After his incarceration for “assault with intent to commit murder,“ Warren underwent a series of psychological evalutions and was diagnosed a paranoid schizophrenic with a severe antisocial personality disorder. He was found to be “uncooperative, withdrawn, irritable, resentful and hostile,“ and although he had  a tested IQ of 115, he was described as “pre- occupied, and at times he seemed to be listening to some inner voice (as though he were experiencing auditory hallucinations, which he denied).“ Warren sounds eerily similar to Kozminski as he was described in some of his psychiatric evaluations. Warren was eventually released and went on to commit several murders, some of which included postmortem mutilations. In one case, reminiscent of the Mary Kelly murder, Warren removed both of the victim´s breasts and put them between her legs.

 In one case, reminiscent of the Mary Kelly murder, Warren removed both of the victim´s breasts and put them between her legs.

Gerade für Diskussionen in diesem Faden hier, sollte Warren interessant sein:

http://jacktheripper.de/forum/index.php/topic,893.msg21926/topicseen.html#msg21926
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Re: Männer, ähnlich Aaron Kosminski!
« Antwort #4 am: 06.01.2012 12:24 Uhr »
Richard Chase

Rob House:

Another clear example of a very dangerous schizophrenic serial killer was Richard Chase, the so-called Vampire of Sacramento, who killed six people during a span of one month in the late 1970s. Chase believed that he had soap-dish poisoning, the result of which was that “his blood was turning to powder and that he thus needed blood from others creatures to replenish it.“ This became, in Chase´s mind, a justification for several murders in which he cannibalized his victims and drank their blood. Like Kozminski, Chase was paranoid- he believed that Nazis were behind the soap-dish poisoning  and later thought that prison officials were poisoning his food
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Re: Männer, ähnlich Aaron Kosminski!
« Antwort #5 am: 06.01.2012 12:45 Uhr »
Herbert Mullin

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Probably the most notable example of an extremely dangerous schizophrenic serial killer was Herbert Mullin. Mullin began to exhibit signs of insanity in his early twenties and then, at the age of twenty-five, started to receive telepathic messages from his father ordering him to kill. In a five-month period between October 1972 and February 1973, Mullin murdered thirteen people- in one instance, cutting open a woman´s stomach and removing her intestines. He killed for a variety of reasons that made sense only in the context of his paranoid fantasies. Among other reasons, he claimed that he killed to prevent a catastrophic earthquake from happening in California, and because he thought the victims themselves sent him telepathic messages offering to be sacrificed. As Mullin explained to the jury at his trial, “One beings living in the cataclysmic earthquake/tidal area. For this reason, the designated hero/leader and associates have the responsibilities of getting enough people to commit suicide and/or consent to being murdered every day.“ Enough said.

Auch hier wieder für diesen Faden interessant:

http://jacktheripper.de/forum/index.php/topic,893.msg21926/topicseen.html#msg21926

Mir kommt die Idee, dass Jack the Ripper die Dorset Street und deren Umgebung auch für eine Art "Zentrum" gehalten haben könnte und dass es auch ein Grund gewesen wäre, warum die Tat an Kelly von der anderen in gewisser Weise abwich.
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Re: Männer, ähnlich Aaron Kosminski!
« Antwort #6 am: 06.01.2012 13:41 Uhr »
Ed Gein, Ottis Toole, Andre Chikatilo, Albert Fish, Issei Sagawa, and Robert Napper

Rob House:

Several notorious serial killers have been diagnosed with schizophrenia, including Ed Gein, Ottis Toole, Andre Chikatilo, Albert Fish, Issei Sagawa, and Robert Napper. Other, such as David Berkowitz (the Son of Sam) and Peter Sutcliffe (the Yorkshire Ripper), apparently faked insanity in the hope of getting a lighter sentence. Although Berkowitz and Sutcliffe claimed that they heard voices that told them to commit murder- for the Son of Sam, it was a neighbor´s dog, whereas Sutcliffe claimed that God ordered him to rid the world of prostitute- both were too organized and methodical to have been likely schizophrenics. True schizophrenic serial killers tend to be more disorganized, and their murders are frenzied, brutal affairs that often involve postmortem mutilation and cannibalism. 
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Re: Männer, ähnlich Aaron Kosminski!
« Antwort #7 am: 06.01.2012 16:22 Uhr »
Marc Sappington

Rob House:

One such example was Marc Sappington, a young black man who became known as the Kansas City Vampire. The Son of a schizophrenic mother, Sappington was raised as a regular churchgoer and was described as well spoken, intelligent, and funny. But the temptations of street life in the ghettos of Kansas City loomed as a constant threat, and in his teens Sappington began to drift into drug use, first smoking “danks,“  cigarettes dipped in embalming fluid, and then graduating to phencyclidine (PCP), a powerful dissociative drug with hallucinogenic effects similar to those experienced by schizophrenics. When sappington reached the age of twenty, full blown schizophrenia set in, and he began to receive orders to kill from voices inside his head.  As he walked the ghetto streets, he would ask the voices, “How about her? What about him?“ Sappington ultimately killed three or four people. He tried to drink the blood of his victim and, in one case, ate part of a victim´s leg.

Dies sind also die Männer, die uns Rob House in seinem Buch im Vergleich zu Aaron Kozminski vorstellt.

Wir wissen, dass die Polizei jemanden mitten aus Whitechapel als Jack the Ripper verdächtigte, "Kosminski". Wir wissen, dass Aaron Kozminski mitten in Whitechapel lebte und wir wissen aus den Aufzeichnungen der Einrichtungen, dass Aaron Kozminski schizophren, paranoid und psychotisch war.

Rob House berichtet uns nun von Männern mit gleicher Persönlichkeitsstruktur, die zu Mördern und Serienkillern wurden.

-his first psychotic episode at age eighteen
-began to exhibit signs of insanity in his early twenties and then, at the age of twenty-five
-reached the age of twenty, full blown schizophrenia set in


Aaron Kozminski war zur Zeit des Rippers 23 Jahre alt. Er hatte anhand der obigen Zitate das richtige Alter.

True schizophrenic serial killers tend to be more disorganized, and their murders are frenzied, brutal affairs that often involve postmortem mutilation and cannibalism


-some of which included postmortem mutilations. In one case, reminiscent of the Mary Kelly murder, Warren removed both of the victim´s breasts and pu them  between her legs
-a justification for several murders in which he cannibalized his victims and drank their blood
-cutting open a woman´s stomach and removing her intestines
-He tried to drink the blood of his victim and, in one case, ate part of a victim´s leg


Anhand dieser Zitate können wir sehen, wie diese Art von Täter mit ihren Opfern umgeht. Es erinnert uns an Chapman, Eddowes und vorallem Kelly.

Aaron Kozminski nun aufgrund dessen und vorallem, weil er ganz unmittelbar in der Nähe eines der Tatorte (Stride) lebte, als Verdächtigen auszuschließen, gerade auch in dem Wissen, dass der Hauptverdächtige der Polizei "Kosminski" hieß, scheint mir nicht sinnvoll.

Roy Hazelwood, eine Koryphae des Profilings, unterstützte Rob House bei seinen Recherchen. Auch er äußerte sich in diesem Buch. Dazu demnächst mehr.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Hazelwood
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Re: Männer, ähnlich Aaron Kosminski!
« Antwort #8 am: 06.01.2012 21:50 Uhr »
Rob House im Austausch mit Roy Hazelwood:

“Jack the Ripper wasn´t good, he was lucky,“ Hazelwood told me.“ I don´t see how anyone who knows anything at all about violent crime can say that was an organized crime.“ I asked whether he thought Kozminski, as a schizophrenic, would have been able to hide his insanity enough to convince his victims to go off with him as a client. “Kozminski fit like a hand in a glove,“ he replied. “You have to remember that the victims were prostitute, and all Kozminski would have had to say was `I`ll give you a shilling for a blowjob,`and they would have gone with him.“

Das FBI kam eigentlich zu folgender Schlußfolgerung:

Jack the Ripper war wahrscheinlich Schizophren, weil er größtenteils zum Profil eines disorganisierten Lustmörders passte. 

Morgen berichte ich euch, warum dies so nicht im offiziellen FBI Profil stand. Besser gesagt, Roy Hazelwood erzählt es uns.
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Re: Männer, ähnlich Aaron Kosminski!
« Antwort #9 am: 07.01.2012 11:43 Uhr »
...es geht aus Rob House´s Buch weiter... (übrigens alles aus dem Kapitel "Schizophrenia And Violence ")

Clearly, Jack the Ripper seems to fit this type of killer- a disorganized, primitive, and impulsive killer, whose murders were frenzied, involved postmortem mutilation, and exhibited a “progression of brutality, “each one “more vicious and sadistic“ than the last. In fact, Hazelwood told me that the FBI came to the conclusion that Jack the Ripper was probably schizophrenic, largely because he fit the profile of a disorganized- type lust murderer. When I asked why this detail was not included in the FBI´s Profil of Jack the Ripper he responded,

When providing a profile, our “clients“ are typically law enforcement professionals. It has always been my belief that including mental health terminology (i.e., “schizophrenic“ or “psychopth“) would make the profile meaningful only to mental health professionals. However, providing the law enforcement client with the characteristics and traits of a schizophrenic or psychopath gives them specific and more helpful information.

Dies ist also der Grund gewesen, klingt logisch.

Zu folgender Zusammenfassung kamen wir hier in diesem Faden:

http://jacktheripper.de/forum/index.php/topic,893.msg21926/topicseen.html#msg21926

Wenn man unsere Posts so durchliest, sei es nun Lestrades "Langeweile", Stordfields und Anirahtaks "Überforderung", Shadow Ghosts "Suche nach Sicherheit" oder mein "Stress"

Vielleicht liefert man uns hiermit eine bessere Erklärung:

Roy Hazelwood:

"approaches his victim in much the same way as an inquisitive child with a new toy... in an exploratory examination of the sexually significant parts of the body in an attempt to determine how they function and appear below the surface"





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Re: Männer, ähnlich Aaron Kosminski!
« Antwort #10 am: 07.01.2012 19:55 Uhr »
Weiter mit Rob House und Roy Hazelwood:

In many respects, the Ripper seems to have been similar to these schizophrenic killers. In fact, according to former FBI Agent Roy Hazelwood, Jack the Ripper was a classic example of a particular type of serial killer called a disorganized “lust murderer.“ Defined as a killer whose focus is a “mutilating attack or displacement of the breasts, rectum, or genitals,“ the disorganized lust murderer is often mentally disturbed and „approaches his victim in much the same way as an inquisitive child with a new toy... in an exploratory examination of the sexually significant parts of the body in an attempt to determine how they function and appear below the surface.“ A lust murderer sometimes takes souvenirs from the body, eats body parts, or “inserts foreign objects into body orifices in a probing and curiosity-motivated, yet brutal, manner.“ Such behavior, according to Hazelwood, reflects a “desire to outrage society and call attention to his total disdain for societal acceptance.“ Hazelwood also suggested that “while there is no evidence to support anthropophagy (cannibalism), given the dissection and taking of body parts, it is my opinion that the Ripper likely consumed parts of his victim´s bodies away from the murder scenes.“ If this true, this would perhaps support the notion that the “From Hell“ letter, which referred to eating part of Eddowes´s kidney, may have been from the real killer.

“inserts foreign objects into body orifices in a probing and curiosity-motivated, yet brutal, manner.“

Diese Aussage erinnert mich an den Angriff auf Emma Smith, die ja, noch dichter als Stride, am wahrscheinlichen Wohnort von Aaron Kosminski attackiert wurde.
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Re: Männer, ähnlich Aaron Kosminski!
« Antwort #11 am: 08.01.2012 02:10 Uhr »
...es geht aus Rob House´s Buch weiter... (übrigens alles aus dem Kapitel "Schizophrenia And Violence ")

Clearly, Jack the Ripper seems to fit this type of killer- a disorganized, [...]
Was ist mit fließenden Übergängen? war mein Gedanke dazu und bestätigt sich auch wenn man den Definitionen aus Wikipedia Glauben schenkt:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_killer#Organized.2C_disorganized.2C_and_mixed

Bspw. "Others specifically target prostitutes, who are likely to go voluntarily with a stranger." Da er in diesem dichtbesiedelten Gebiet trotzdem nie erwischt wurde, muss er die einzelnen Situationen eingeschätzt und nicht völlig blindwütig losgelegt haben.


Zitat
Zu folgender Zusammenfassung kamen wir hier in diesem Faden:

http://jacktheripper.de/forum/index.php/topic,893.msg21926/topicseen.html#msg21926

Wenn man unsere Posts so durchliest, sei es nun Lestrades "Langeweile", Stordfields und Anirahtaks "Überforderung", Shadow Ghosts "Suche nach Sicherheit" oder mein "Stress"

Vielleicht liefert man uns hiermit eine bessere Erklärung:

Roy Hazelwood:

"approaches his victim in much the same way as an inquisitive child with a new toy... in an exploratory examination of the sexually significant parts of the body in an attempt to determine how they function and appear below the surface"
Würde zwar immer noch nicht die massiven Gesichts- und Beinverletzungen erklären, halte ich davon abgesehen aber ebenfalls für denkbar. Weiß nicht mehr welcher, aber irgendein modernerer Serienmörder hat etwas in die Richtung als Motiv angegeben.

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Re: Männer, ähnlich Aaron Kosminski!
« Antwort #12 am: 08.01.2012 13:29 Uhr »
Ich denke, das Störungen immer auf einer Skala von 1-100 bewertet werden können. Von "überhaupt nicht bemerkbar" bis "vollständig ausgeprägt."

True schizophrenic serial killers tend to be more disorganized

Ähnliche Formulierungen findet man häufig. Man kann also sagen; dieser Art von Täter ist m e h r disorganisiert, diese Art von Täter e h e r organisiert. Es sollte Beispiele geben, wo es in beiden klassisch, also 100%ig ausgeprägt ist aber die Grauzone dazwischen halte ich für enorm. Es wird also Schizophrene geben, wo man sicherlich sagen könnte sie sind 50% organisiert und 50% unorganisiert. Deswegen kann ein disorganisierter Täter auch "organisiert" entkommen, oder ein organisierter Täter durch eine "unorganisierte Vorgehensweise" erwischt werden. Es ist "entweder so oder entweder so" lehne ich auch ab.

Ich bin überzeugt, dass solche Täter erst dann impulsive werden können, wenn auch die "Umstände" stimmen. Dies geschieht mal früher mal später. Unter Umständen sind sie ja auch mit einem ordentlichen bzw. hohen IQ ausgestattet.

Schizophrenia cannot be understood without understanding despair

R.D. Laing

Würde zwar immer noch nicht die massiven Gesichts- und Beinverletzungen erklären, halte ich davon abgesehen aber ebenfalls für denkbar. Weiß nicht mehr welcher, aber irgendein modernerer Serienmörder hat etwas in die Richtung als Motiv angegeben.

Geht mir ähnlich wie mit deiner Erinnerung. Nein, das stimmt, es könnte aber ein Motiv gewesen sein.
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Re: Männer, ähnlich Aaron Kosminski!
« Antwort #13 am: 08.01.2012 13:37 Uhr »
Bevor ich mich selbst weiter äußern und zur Diskussion anregen möchte, stelle ich hier eine letzte Passage zu dem Thread-Thema hinein.

Rob House mit Roy Hazelwood:

Hazelwood argued that societal rejection and a sense of “social inadequacy“ would drive a potential lust murderer “away from the expression of normal or healthy sexuality“ to “a world in which (he) imagined increasingly sadistic and violent erotic encounters.“ Such fantasies are reinforced through compulsive masturbation and typically revolve around paraphilias, or “sexual arousal to objects or situations that are not part of normative stimulation.“ As he noted,

Lust murderers exhibit a progression of brutality, and each subsequent murder becomes more vicious and sadistic. Erotophonophiliacs establish a violently sexualized relationship in their minds that they have rehearsed repeatedly while masturbating…. They are impulsive and unable to escape their fantasy world. This is a sexualized imagined realm that is robust with themes of power, sex, violence and mutilation.

Moreover, Hazelwood added, for the lust murderer, “The onset of aberrant sexual proclivities was linked to a developmental change. This change included the transition from a normal sexualized fantasy life to that of a paraphilic masturbatory fantasy life.“ This is especially relevant to our assessment of Kozminski as a suspect in the Ripper murders, because the psychological trauma induced by the family´s flight from Russia as part of a mass exodus of refugees fleeing anti-Semitism and oppression essentially coincided with the onset of puberty when Kozminski was fifteen years old.
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Re: Männer, ähnlich Aaron Kosminski!
« Antwort #14 am: 08.01.2012 14:33 Uhr »
Hier einiges von Aaron Kosminski´s bekannten Krankheitsgeschichte:

Juni 1890 (Workhouse)

Februar 1891 (Workhouse)

deemed insane

6. Februar 1891, Dr. Edmund King Houchin:

He declares that he is guided & his movements altogether controlled by an instinct that informs his mind; he says that he knows the movements of all mankind; he refuses food from others because he is told to do so and eats out of the gutter for the same reason.

Von Jacob Cohen erfährt Houchin folgendes über Aaron Kosminski:

He goes about the streets and picks up bits of bread from the gutter& eats them, he drinks water from the tap & he refuses food at the hands of others. He took up a knife & threatened the life of his sister. He says that he is ill and his cure consists in refusing food. He is melancholic, practises self-abuse. He is very dirty and will not be washed. He has not attempted any kind of work for years.

Colney Hatch 1891-1894

7. Februar 1891:

“mania“, “incoherence,“ “extremly deluded“, “reticent and morose“, “answers questions fairly“

6 Jahre soll er schon mit seiner Störung zu tun gehabt haben, also als er 19 Jahre alt war, in 1884/85.

10. Februar 1891
Is rather difficult to deal with on account of the dominant Charakter of his delusions. Refused to be bathed the other day as his “Instinct“ forbade him.
21. April
Incoherent, apathetic, unoccupied; still has the same “instinctive“ objection to the weekly bath, health fair
9. Januar 1892
Incoherent; at times excited & violent- a few days ago he took up a chair, and attempted to strike the charge attendant; apathetic as a rule; and refuses to occupy himself in any way; habits Cleanly; health fair
17. November
Quiet & well behaved. Only speaks German, Does not work.
18 Januar 1893
Chronic Mania; intelligence impaired; at times noisy, excited & incoherent; unoccupied; habits cleanly; health fair.
8. April
Incoherent, quiet lately, fair health
18. September
Believes he is under protection of Russian Consulate ? Indolent but quiet, and clean in habits, never employed. Answers questions concerning himself.
13. April 1894
Demented & incoherent, healt fair.

Nach der Einlieferung zog seine Schwester Matilda mit ihrer Familie aus der Greenfield Street weg. Mutter Golda sollte spätestens 1894 dort auch in der 69 New Street, New Road, Whitechapel gelebt haben. Selbst Bruder Isaac verließ diese Straße.

Am 19. April 1894 kam Aaron Kosminski in das Leavesden Asylum. Den ersten Eintrag wie in Colney Hatch  gab es erst wieder am 10. September 1910.

“He has hallucinations of sight & hearing and is very excitable at times“
“He has hallucinations of sight & hearing  & is at times very obstinate“

sollen aber als Beispiele reichen.

1919 wurde er außerhalb der Familiengrabstätten beigesetzt.
Wer wartet mit Besonnenheit, der wird belohnt zur rechten Zeit...